The Responsible Parenthood, Reproductive Health and Population and Development Act of 2011 otherwise known as the RH Bill is a hot topic on and off the blogosphere as its proponents and opponents push for their arguments for and against the bill. The biggest opponent of the bill is from the religious front, mainly the Catholic Church. 5th District representative Kimi S. Cojuangco is one of the bill’s staunchest supporters and she does so while proclaiming her Christianity and affiliation with the Catholic church.
One of the strongest arguments for Catholic support of the RH Bill is found in this essay, written by some of the faculty at Ateneo de Manila University titled: Catholics Can Support the Bill in Good Conscience. In this article, they “…assert that RH Bill is pro-life, pro-women, pro-poor, pro-youth, and pro-informed choice. Just as the 5th district’s representative has been saying all along in the numerous write ups published on Sison’s Official Website.
Here are selected comments from that particular discussion. Check out some of the links shared by our fellow Sisonians. You might find some interesting reading:
Jimson Echave The RH Bill is pro-life indeed and we need it… It will prevent more unwanted pregnancies and will decrease the use of abortion… It’s but common sense I say, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE… lol…
September 3 at 7:35am ·
Jeanette Pasibe Moore Another informative and thought provoking post, Abe! Thanks for always stimulating these discussions. My opinion is that the RH Bill should not be made into a religious issue. Those whose religious beliefs contradict the bill can CHOSE not avail these themselves of these services; but don’t keep those who need it and want it from receiving the benefits of the RH Bill. Give them the same benefit of CHOICE.
I wonder how many of you agree with the opinion that the the bill degrades the morality of Filipinos? Will it promote promiscuity, encourage abortions, etc?
And is it the governments job to regulate morality?
September 3 at 8:00am ·
Jimson Echave Yeah… The bill I believe is a matter of exercising the freedom of choice…. its an option… its a right that everyone has to exercise… Anyway the pope have said already that it is okay for prostitutes to use condoms just to avoid STDs… Mas concerned pa sila sa mga prostitutes kaysa sa mga naghihirap dahil sa dami ng anak na walang means sa contraceptives… just a thought…
September 3 at 8:05am
Abraham O. Marqueses Thanks for the compliment Mng. Jeanette, agree with your comment RH bill is a benefit of choice no one has the right to deny to whoever needs them. For the morality and religious issues, I provided a link below which contains threads of heated debates on the matter. @Jimson, pardon me for the wrong notion on the space which I thought to be here at fb page, true, lack of space do not only mean the dwelling place, birth space, but most importantly the space for income opportunities. Hindi ba mas kasalanan kung sabi ka ng sabi sa mga tao, “humayo kayo at magpakarami ayon sa biblia”, habang nakikita mo yung laki ng pamilya at salat sa pangangailangan para itaguyod ito para lang may makakulekta ka sa kasal, binyag at donasyon.” Hindi kaya ito’y pagiging makasarili? Please check:
September 4 at 11:47pm ·
Jeanette Pasibe Moore I just finished reading that article from DF too 🙂 that statement about priests passing judgement is so true. We have to remember they are mere humans just like us… not Gods. Their word is not always true nor the last.
September 4 at 11:53pm
Abraham O. Marqueses So goes the question: “We have the freedom OF religion, but are we free FROM religion?”
September 4 at 11:56pm · Like
Jeanette Pasibe Moore I think that would be another individual choice. I for one have freed myself FROM religion. 🙂
That’s not the same as freeing oneself from GOD, btw
September 5 at 12:00am · Like
Marco Mendoza From the Church of the Churchless; Jesus says, “Beware of religion”
Here’s another great churchless teaching story from Anthony de Mello, my kind of Jesuit priest. The kind who was censured by the Catholic Church after his death for speaking the truth too freely. This is from his book, “ Taking Flight.”
The priest announced that Jesus Christ himself was coming to church the following Sunday. People turned up in large numbers to see him. Everybody expected him to preach, but he only smiled when introduced and said, “Hello.”
Everyone offered him hospitality for the night, especially the priest, but he refused politely. He said he would spend the night in church. How fitting, everybody thought.
He slipped away early next morning before the church doors were opened. And, to their horror, the priest and people found their church had been vandalized. Scribbled everywhere on the walls was the single word, “Beware.”
No part of the church was spared: the doors and windows, the pillars and the pulpit, the altar, even the Bible that rested on the lectern. “Beware.” Scratched in large letters and in small, in pencil and pen and paint of every conceivable color. Wherever the eye rested one could see the words: “Beware, beware, Beware, Beware, beware, beware…”
Shocking. Irritating. Confusing. Fascinating. Terrifying. What were they supposed to beware of? It did not say. It just said “Beware.”
The first impulse of the people was to wipe out every trace of this defilement, this sacrilege. They were restrained from doing this only by the thought that it was Jesus himself who had done this deed. Now that mysterious word “Beware” began to sink into the minds of the people each time they came to church.
They began to beware of the Scriptures, so they were able to profit from the Scriptures without falling into bigotry. They began to beware of sacraments, so they were sanctified without becoming superstitious. The priest began to beware of his power over the people, so he was able to help without controlling.
And everybody began to beware of religion which leads the unwary to self-righteousness. They became law-abiding, yet compassionate to the weak. They began to beware of prayer, so it no longer stopped them from becoming self-reliant. They even began to beware of their notions of God so they were able to recognize him outside the narrow confines of their church.
They have now inscribed the shocking word over the entrance of their church and as you drive past at night you can see it blazing above the church in multicolored neon lights
Comment by Paul,02/06/2006: I think this story relates to all religions. It reminds me of the words of the Buddha:
“Rely not on the teacher/person, but on the teaching. Rely not on the words of the teaching, but on the spirit of the words.
Rely not on theory, but on experience. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. Do not believe anything because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and the benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
May we all continue to BEWARE…
September 5 at 4:12am
Marco Mendoza ?@Mrs. Jeanette Pasibe Moore,Abraham O. Marqueses, for me religion is the making of man some easily manipulated by its leaders especially those existed thousands of years ago e.g. pharisees in the biblical times is represented by the ruling religion in our country. My above post is somewhat intriguing since the story came from a Jesuit priest Mello that was “excommunicated for speaking the truth about the catholic church, a break-away priest. But what intrigues me is that the website of “Church of the Churchless”, if you are without church then you are without God. ., If you are free from religion and follows the teaching of Jesus…you are of God. Though the story sends the strong message of caution “BEWARE”, the author remains lost since he is churchless. Now comes the word “CHURCH”.
September 5 at 5:28am
Jimson Echave All I can say is this… Christianity is not a principle, not a church membership, and not the observance of religious ceremonies and respect to priests but it is indeed a RELATIONSHIP with our LORD… Christianity is Relationship….
September 5 at 9:00pm ·
Jeanette Pasibe Moore ?Marco, thanks for sharing that. I enjoyed reading it! Although that last statement, “the author remains lost since he is churchless”, seems to be the antithesis of the message within the story. I suppose it depends on how you perceive ‘CHURCH’?
September 5 at 9:18pm
Marco Mendoza Agree, and I won’t elaborate on that, how about the stand of Congresswoman Kimi Cojuangco, how do we see her strong stand for the RH bill?
September 5 at 9:24pm · Like
Jeanette Pasibe Moore Thanks again Marco for the tip on the writings of Fr. De Mello. I am now bookmarking some of his books on Amazon for future reading. I am also perusing his website. Very interesting reading indeed! Thanks, ading 🙂
September 5 at 9:28pm · Like
Jeanette Pasibe Moore As for madam Kimi’s stand on the RH Bill I am in total agreement with her support of the bill. I thought it was rather courageous of her to come outright against the church with her statements. I hear she has also been receiving harassment because of her stance.
September 5 at 9:30pm
Marco Mendoza I say she has the balls(pardon for the word)…for the other congressmen who invented this so called eleventh commandment, this is a test of their political influence,”karamihan kasi nasanay na lang sumipsip at suhulan ang mga pari at iba pang chuch leaders para kumuha ng boto instead of reaching out to people….tamad at duwag lang talaga sila dahilal nasanay na sila sa “shortcuts”. Ngayon masusubok ito dahil hindi na nag-aagree sa doktrina ng mga taong dati’y may kinalaman sa pagluklok sa kanila.”
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Philip Aguinaldo de Ocampo binasak daytoy link ni Mr. de quiros ket talaga nga nagmayat ti panaka explikar na piman klaro, da best, di kuwan naiturongak kadagidiay kumentaryo iti dayta nga artikulo ket apo nagmamayat met manen ta ag debate dagitay pastor ken papadi ken isu la amenen nga mayat mangted ti interpretasyon da.. ngem daytoy ti banag kuma nga ikunsidera da ” naragsak ka ngata nga akas nagannak no makiitam dagiti annak mo nga mabisbisinan, agnanaid ti pagtaengan nga sako laeng ti atep na”. Gapo dayta umonamonak nga daytoy linteg ket kasapulan para ti pagsayaatan ti pagilyan.. In favor of the RH bill apo…
kasla ketdi napanak naki gimong no basbasaek dagitay reaction da ken de Quiros..
September 7 at 5:47pm · Like · 1 person
Jeanette Pasibe Moore Thanks for the links, Abe! I try to open my mind to the opposing argument but I just have a difficult time doing it. I agree with Philip, the second article from Mr. Quiros is much more interesting and good fodder for debate.
September 9 at 2:00pm · Like · 1 person
September 9 at 4:36pm ·
Philip Aguinaldo de Ocampo mayat daytoy inkabel mo nga link Boss Leo , talaga agkakabanesbes ti reaction da, hehe.. dagdag kaalaman..
September 9 at 4:43pm · Like
Marco Mendoza I am Catholic so I deserve to know the real purpose of my religion, please click below link for what I found and tell me if I am being deceived or not, the catholic church can excommunicate me anytime for doing investigative researches, and I have lots of it, RC priests demonizes those who do not agree with their doctrines, now I am so obliged to find out who are the “real demons” are. The Truth about the Roman Catholic Church at www.youtube.com
The secret behind the false tradition of apostolic succession that every traditional Catholic needs to know. http://libermundus.org/
September 10 at 4:59am · Like ·
Marco Mendoza From above link: “Are we supposed to believe that it’s all just about ROMAN GREED and PAPAL AMBITIONS, or better yet, the Lucifer is God and the Romans were actually on the right side of their war against the Gnostics and Christians?” If this is true then our church is being governed by the influence of the Romans NOT God, no wonder their influence are being extended beyond their boundaries which includes involvements in politics and government affairs. Our direct relationship with Jesus Christ is even blocked by their teachings that Mary is the first bureaucratic way to Jesus which is unbiblical.
September 10 at 6:11am · Like
Marco Mendoza This is the study of the Book of Revelation chapter. The Apostle John’s vision on the island of Patmos in 96AD. The bible identifies the Roman Catholic Church as the harlot and Mystery. Babylon Revelation 17 Whore Babylon Antichrist – Part 1
September 11 at 5:35am · Like ·
Victor Aquino kailian, inya aya daytoy RH bill? mabalin kadi nga i explain ti points of argument ti maysa ken maysa tatno matarusan mi met. thanks.
September 11 at 6:01am · Like
Abraham O. Marqueses For the Anti-RH bill argument New CBCP Pastoral Letter versus the RH bill
CHOOSING LIFE, REJECTING THE RH BILL
(A Pastoral Letter of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines)
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